A Basic Income For All? Yes! Older People show Why!

The idea of a Basic Income for all has become a key idea as the likely economic effects of Covid have become apparent.

Recently I was in the live audience for The BBC Big Question Debate. The topic discussed was:

Giving everyone a basic income is the future.  

The debate was truly  thought provoking and light dawned. It was an idea that must be right. More importantly, I began to see why we older citizens can provide the answer to one of the problems people in the audience raised.

First lets look at the idea:

The proposal that there should be a Basic income or Universal wage for all people has been around for many years.

It means that everyone would be given a minimum amount monthly, enough to cover absolute basics and with no strings attached. After that you can earn as much as you like.

In effect it abolishes the means tested Welfare Benefits system.

The key speaker in the debate was Guy Standing, who made it very clear that the appalling stress and anxiety caused by our current system has totally negative effect. If you saw ‘I Daniel Blake‘ you will understand the mental torture of job centre interviews and sanctions.

Moreover it eliminates the present problem of the demotivating Poverty Trap, where you loose benefit if you take casual or part time work. Even better, if you wish to study, need to be a carer or just want to try being a sportsperson, an artist or an actor you would have a basic income.

You will immediately ask, as the debaters did. How will this be paid for?

The key answer is that the Government  will no longer be paying out Benefit, nor will it need the offices and bureaucracy that system entails. There will be a shortfall that has to be made up by a marginally higher tax on those who do have jobs, but there is no doubt that it can be managed if there is the political will.

A key advantage is that it allows many people to work part time who would have been penalised under the Benefit claw back system. And the evidence from Countries who are trying it out suggests that this is exactly what happens. And gives them the chance to get training and build up a CV.

Today’s world of  automation increasingly allows Countries to earn its money with less manual work. We shall need less and less full time workers. The growth of part time, casual labour  system  will continue.

Somehow, we will need to provide all families with basic stable income. More important is, that we should not have to subsidise industry in order to do it.

The Basic Income/Universal wage concept does this.  It is a fair way of redistributing tax monies from industry and is without the negative implications of “being on Benefit”


The immediate  question is “Well, why would they work at all?”

Just watch TV all day? OK. So they can if that is their choice. Maybe they would paint, garden, volunteer or spend time with family.  Up to them.

But if they do work they can keep what they earn and use that how they choose. The experiments so far have indicated that people do not decrease their work hours and that those who do are mainly working mothers. And possibly most importantly others not previously in work have now felt able to start part time.

And it may well be that unpleasant jobs then attract the higher wages they should have!

Why am I saying that we should support this?

Because we older people are an excellent example of how it works!

The Old Age Pension is in effect a basic income! We get it no strings attached and we can, if we wish, watch TV and do nothing

But that isn’t so for most of us is it?  We don’t do nothing.

We are a major part of the UK Economy!

Pensioners have provided millions of hours of free babysitting for working parents. More millions of free caring have been given for Friends, Neighbours and Family. And yet more as volunteers in hospitals, Museums, Charity shops, prisons, in schools and as governors, as workers in our country parks, RSPB, National Trust, ….Everywhere, once you start looking!
Not only that we are personally active. We love exploring, the Heritage, Tourism and Coach trip industries could not survive without us! We take part in book groups, clubs, art classes, yoga, bingo, bridge, dog walking and rambling. If you go into the countryside midweek you will see gaggle after gaggle of silver haired walkers! And not only walking, but working to maintain paths and stiles, repairing hedges, doing nature counts.
Nor does paid work necessarily stop. Many pensioners will continue to work because they feel they still have a contribution to make.  A taxi driver gave me this lovely example. He told me he is 70 and has taken it up because he likes having something to do and meeting people. They enjoy it, and feel useful or maybe just want cash to visit their family in OZ…

What am I saying? That humans are not essentially lazy!

They love being active and social. Most will be creative in some way, and almost all will contribute to the community. Given freedom from basic money worries, people can and do find interesting lives and new ways of being useful.

We of the older generation have already provided an excellent example  that,  given financial stability, people can build their own self confidence, create a positive identity and be of value to Society as well as by paid work. 

 Our Community spirit is alive and well as Covid has shown. 



  1. February 5, 2017 / 3:58 pm

    Even though I wouldn’t qualify myself, having been out of the country way too long, I heartily agree with you that Oldies should support this.

  2. February 6, 2017 / 12:31 am

    As you say, Older people are an excellent example of how this can work. I like the idea of no claw back, which is always a mean spirited way of ‘helping’ people. Great post!

  3. February 7, 2017 / 2:16 pm

    Thanks. Glad you like the idea. Seems civilised to me and a wise way of thinking through redistribution of income, when work alone can no longer do it.

  4. February 12, 2017 / 2:41 pm

    Yes I did see I Daniel Blake, it had me in tears and it is so true. The “system” is designed to discourage people from getting their entitlements. I think a basic income is inevitable because once AI and robots take over, they will need a population of people with money to spend. As a former single parent I know that society would benefit if all parents were less stressed and able to give more attention to their children.

  5. February 12, 2017 / 6:20 pm

    We are in total agreement. I too was a single parent. It would have taken off so much stress and not affected my career long term

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